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Indicted on Fraud Charges,” Fund Raising Management, Jan 1989.,Art Harris and Michael Isikoff, “The Bakkers’ Tumultuous Return, Washington Post June
 12, 1987.

Check out

Laughing Pastor Ron Clark Went Down In Flames Crying http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/rc.htm

Pentecostal Parasites Pimps & Prostitutes http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm

“The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm

ORAL ROBERTS IS A FALSE PROPHET http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/or.htm

“The Charlatan” Karl Strader http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm

The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm

“The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm

Integrity of Pastor John Arnott? http://apostasytoday.tripod.com/arnott.htm

Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm

The Thieving CEO Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm

TACF and its Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long  are ignoring what Jesus
told them

MT  5:21  “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not
murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 5:22 “But I
say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be
in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be
in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger
of hell fire. 5:23 “Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there
remember that your brother has something against you, 5:24 “leave your gift
there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your
brother, and then come and offer your gift. 5:25 “Agree with your adversary
quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you
to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into
prison. 5:26 “Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there
till you have paid the last penny.

TACF and its pastors are ignoring what Matt Sorger said about them and are
blaming things on others!

God is not just dealing with the obvious witchcraft and occultism that we
know about. He’s also dealing with it in the pulpit. “Witchcraft in the
pulpit?”, 

God is also shaking everything associated with Chemosh, the god that
oversees astrology, occultism, and witchcraft. God is not just dealing with
the obvious witchcraft and occultism that we know about. He’s also dealing
with it in the pulpit. “Witchcraft in the pulpit?”, you may ask. Yes, it can
even operate in a subtle way in the Church. 

The root of the spirit of witchcraft is rebellion. The spirit of witchcraft
is all about power, manipulation and control. The operation of the spirit of
witchcraft is trying to manipulate through control and rebellion. And the
day of spiritual witchcraft in our churches is–over. God is shaking that
thing down to the ground. The Lord is uncovering and exposing emotional and
spiritual abuse that is happening inside the Church. There are some in
leadership positions, who rather than operate by the Spirit of God, are
actually operating with a spirit of witchcraft and control. 

Under the guise of “submission” people have subjected themselves to
unhealthy control and abuse. For example, you may have heard, “If you leave
this church, you’ll never go anywhere. If you leave this church, you’re out
from under my covering and the devil’s going to get you.” This spirit uses
manipulation and fear to control people. That is not the Spirit of God. 

The Lord is bringing a purification to all the tactics of the flesh. Out of
the fear of losing people, we begin to manipulate them with fear and anger
and say, “If you leave, you’ll be under a curse.” I’ve heard these things
come out of leader’s mouths and I’ve seen sheep sitting under fear and
control and they think that it’s the will of God. God is shaking us free
from unbiblical submission and is teaching leaders how to lead in a Godly
way, as well as teaching the Body to submit in “true honor and respect”
through healthy, whole leaders. 

God wants a pure, clean Body from the head all the way down to the feet. And
it’s not just in the pulpit. Witchcraft in the form of manipulation and
control can also come from the pews. God doesn’t want any of it. You know,
sheep are beautiful, they look all nice and cute and fluffy, but some of
them have sharp teeth, and if you do something they don’t like, they bite
you with those teeth. God is shaking all of it down. A PROPHETIC WORD FROM
MATT: THERE IS A SHAKING ~ PART 2/2 MATT SORGER MINISTRIES Oct 29, 2007

The real  problem with CHC, ORU KCM and TACF is the same with many prominent
Pentecostal  ministries, the board  is simply a leader’s family or a group
of people who rubber stamp whatever the leader wants. But with a truly
healthy organization, a board is visionary, strong, and uses their vast
experience to set the direction of the entire organization. In situations
like the scandal at ORU or TACF, they have a choice of removing the current
leadership during the crisis period, or keeping them in place. The right
choice can re-establish the public (and supporter’s) trust in the
organization, and the wrong choice can undermine that trust, and make the
supporters or partners feel that the board is just pawns, not real decision
makers.

TACF  is angry with a brother without a cause. They claim to be Christians
who represent Jesus and do what He has told them to do including in Matthew
5:21-26   if your brother has something against you, “leave your gift there
before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and
then come and offer your gift. 

But what they do instead? They slander and stone wall the defendant when he
asked them to retract or substantiate their words slandering the defendant.
They never responded to any of the defendants emails  except to say they
were going to sue the plaintiff contrary to the teachings of scriptures -
1COR 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before
the unrighteous, and not before the saints?  And then they sue the defendant
contrary to scripture! 

This is another very good example of why TACF are hypocrites and a cult who
think they are accountable to no one and can do whatever they want to do
without any repercussions - a true display of arrogant and pride! 

IT WAS TACF NOT KAMBULOW WHO BROUGHT THEIR OWN DEMISE ABOUT BY DOING THINGS
CONTRARY TO SCRIPTURE SUCH AS

The Plaintiff  (TACF) claims

 (a)   general damages in the amount of $1,000,000 each;

(b)    punitive, aggravated and exemplary damages in the amount of
$1,000,000 each;

No nonprofit organization, especially a Church has the right to stonewall
Walter Kambulow for about two years and then to use their power and wealth
to sue him for around $ 50 million dollars.  

TACF has sued Walter for about 50 million dollars which is in itself
ridiculous. TACF or others like them cannot be allowed to use their family
run and owned nonprofit organization and power to silence its critics 

We see by TACF’s action to try and gag Walter Kambulow the real  injustice
and flagrant arrogant attitude and deeds of its pastors who are supposed to
be men of God as the idea that freedom of speech is not permissible.

We all know about the bully pulpit  and many deceived deluded pastors use to
beat down the sheep! Well there is a lot more in this lawsuit than just
money! There is a principle about TACF being bullies and proven liars and
they lied in their lawsuit against Walter by stating  he was a member of
their church and is divorced. So if they lied about this what else are they
lying about?

The TACF lawsuit filed in the Superior Court of Ontario in Toronto states
THAT TACF AND IT’S PASTORS

have suffered and will continue to suffer damages, their character and
reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or
calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and
general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and
they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt.

have had and will continue to have a detrimental effect on the ability of
TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long
to continue to perform their work as pastors

But IT WASN’T Walter Kambulow who did that to them It was their lies,
stonewalling, arrogance and cowardice which did it to themselves. And
ultimately with all their legal maneuvering and lawsuits they cannot run
away or hide from the truth that a Christian church cannot sue a Christian
in court unless it is nonChristian and a cult!

Orthodox Christian Information Center which is not a cult has reported:

 The Toronto Blessing (or TB, as it is now often called) is a worldwide
spiritual movement within Pentecostal and charismatic churches. It is named
after the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Toronto, Canada, where the
movement first hit the headlines in January 1994. Its advocates claim that
the Blessing is a “sovereign move of God”, a new and glorious work of the
Holy Spirit. Many of them call it a “revival.” However, others, conscious
that scarcely any unbelievers are being converted through this movement, do
not call it a revival, but a “renewal” of the Church. Many of them add that
this renewal of the Church is being done by God as a prelude to a revival.
Others claim that this is more than a mere renewal of the Church; it is God
bringing to birth a new super-Church for the end times-a view which fits in
with the doctrine known as “Latter-Rain Restorationism,” which has been
around in Pentecostal and charismatic circles for some time. The claim is
also made by many advocates of the TB that those who resist this great move
of God will, if they persevere in their resistance, be guilty of blasphemy
against the Holy Spirit, and various dreadful things will happen to them.
What exactly will happen is often left rather vague; the language used is
that opposers will be “swept aside,” “crushed,” that sort of thing. On his
video, The Coming Revival, Rodney Howard-Browne warns that opposers will be
struck dumb and blind. 

. I would suggest that we can account for the TB by a combination of
hypnotic power and influence, and supernatural demonic power. To keep
ourselves safe against such deceptive movement, we need a true understanding
of how the Holy Spirit works in the believer; and Scripture leads us to the
conclusion that He works through the Word of God, through the truth,  and
that the first point of contact that the Spirit uses in us is our minds, our
understandings. We must therefore reject all so-called spiritual experiences
that by-pass or short-circuit the mind, or are not produced by the spiritual
application of truth to the mind and heart. We must make sure that we have a
spirituality that gives a prominent place to our minds, to understanding the
truth, and we must make sure that Scripture is central in our relationship
with God, and also in our worship of God, through the preaching and teaching
of God’s word. Isaiah [Esaias] 8:20: “To the law and to the testimony! If
they do not speak according to this Word, it is because there is no light in
them. http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/toronto.aspx

If according to Rodney that opposers of TB  will be “swept aside,”
“crushed,” or  struck dumb and blind why is TACF  instead of God trying to
“do the job”  through a lawsuit which is full of unsubstantiated foolish
lies ” including  (i) that Long and TACF intentionally and improperly caused
Kambulow’s wife to divorce Kambulow”.  (THE KAMBULOWS ARE NOT DIVORCED!)

Was it the Holy Spirit who told them all these lies or the father of lies -
the devil, himself? 

One thing for sure that Pastors of TACF have no discernment of they would
not say  such things or put forth a foolish lawsuit without first talking to
the defendant which is the scriptural thing to do?

The biblical idea of mediation is practical “if they’ll talk to you,”
Richardson said. “We couldn’t get them to talk to us.”
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_7298681?source=rss

John Wimber of Vineyard USA  made some important position papers on what to
do if a leader is slandered publically and nowhere in his papers did he
advocate that Christians sue Christians like Toronto Airport Christian
Fellowship has done. TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP et al. and WALTER
KAMBULOW Court File No.C9-cv-342052 pp3 

See Vineyard Position Paper #1 entitled “Why I respond to criticism”
http://www.vineyardusa.org/upload/criticism.pdf

See Vineyard Position Paper #2 “Understanding Church Discipline in a
Vineyard Context” - http://www.vineyard.ca/engine.cfm?i=62

The biblical idea for truth and integrity especially for a church  is not
using your power and resources to silence or destroy your critics because it
appears such people have something to hide especially if they are a powerful
nonprofit organization? 

Many questions remain unanswered by the  Founding Pastor John Arnott  of
TACF 

-          Do you believe that Walter Kambulow is a Christian?  Yes or No?

-           

-          Do you have two reliable witnesses to establish the many lies of
Pastor Steve Long of April 25,2006 and who are they?

-           

-          Is character assassination and lies of a stranger part of the
ways that Toronto Airport Christian fellowship does things and is it a
Christian thing to do?

-           

-          WHY WOULD TACF LIE IN THEIR LAWSUIT ABOUT MR WALTER  KAMBULOW
BEING A FORMER MEMBER OF TACF OR TACF’S PASTOR STEVE LONG LIE ABOUT WALTER
KAMBULOW BEING AS BAD AS THEY COME, BEING DISCIPLINED BY SEVERAL CHURCHES IN
HIS PAST FOR REBELLION NO LESS AND BLAMES EVERY AND ALL CHURCHES HE HAS EVER
BEEN PART OF AND SLANDERS HIS WIFE IN PUBLIC? 

-          WHAT DEMONS INSPIRED TACF’S SENIOR PASTOR STEVE LONG TO COME UP
WITH SUCH NONSENSE , SLANDER AND DEFAMATION OF A TOTAL STRANGER?

AND TACF SAY THEY ARE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT? 

THEY MUST BE JOKING? 

ONE THING IT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT THEY HAVE BUT THE FATHER OF LIES -
THE DEVIL HIMSELF!

Check out  ORAL ROBERTS IS A FALSE PROPHET
<http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/or.htm>
http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/or.htm 

Check out CBC documentary on the vile character Benny Hinn

” <http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/main_miracles.html> Do you believe in miracles?” 

Check out Pentecostal Parasites Pimps & Prostitutes
<http://cnt10.tripod.com/rw.htm> http://cnt10.tripod.com/rw.htm

This is a time of  accounting. God is checking the books. Those who love to
appear  in public are being judged in public. Once again, it seems, God  has
entered the temple to overturn the tables of the  moneychangers. His breath
is blowing across His kingdom,  cleansing and purifying. The end result will
be as always: to form a people in the image of His Son and to bring glory to
Himself.

All this is happening for one reason: to reveal the  sovereignty of God. He
is, after all, “a consuming  fire….removing what can be shaken–that is,
created things–so  that what  cannot be shaken may remain” (Hebrews.
12:27).  Jamie Buckingham 1987

Star Preachers and the Pressure to be ‘Perfect’ -  The media light has
fallen upon famed Pentecostal preachers and their less than perfect lives,
which, to many, has come as a shock.

<http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071001/29521_Star_Preachers_and_the_
Pressure_to_be_%27Perfect%27.htm>
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071001/29521_Star_Preachers_and_the_P
ressure_to_be_%27Perfect%27.htm

DO THE WORLD  A GREAT FAVOR AND  LOOK INTO TORONTO AIRPORT CHRISTIAN
FELLOWSHIP OR TORONTO AIRPORT CHURCH OF THE FLESH AS I CALL IT  whose elite
proud and arrogant leadership of Pastor John Arnott and Steve Long also are
liars and deceivers if not cowards. 

Many have a problem with the elitism that the Toronto Blessing seems to
bring with it. Those who do not embrace this movement are not only made to
feel like Second Class Christians but are shown no tolerance for questioning
it.  <http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/> http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/
<http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/lawsuit.htm>
http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/lawsuit.htm

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into
apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into
an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also
transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be
according to their works. 2 Corinthians  11:13-15

1 Timothy 1:5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart,
from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, 1:6 from which some, having
strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 1:7 desiring to be teachers of the
law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

Check out the Following

 <http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/lawsuit.htm>
http://torontoblessing.tripod.com/lawsuit.htm

 <http://cnt10.tripod.com/ministry.htm> http://cnt10.tripod.com/ministry.htm

 <http://cnt10.tripod.com/rw.htm> http://cnt10.tripod.com/rw.htm

 <http://cnt10.tripod.com/aog.htm> http://cnt10.tripod.com/aog.htm

 <http://betrayaltoday.tripod.com/betrayal.htm>
http://betrayaltoday.tripod.com/betrayal.htm

 <http://cnt10.tripod.com/hinn.htm> http://cnt10.tripod.com/hinn.htm

 <http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3327073856673430950&hl=en-CA>
November 2006 Canadian Broadcast Corp. (CBC) exposes the lies and lavish
lifestyle of Benny Hinn (link to video) 

<http://pandagon.net/2006/12/04/scam-artist-benny-hinn-to-flock-pay-for-my-n
ew-ministry-jet/>
http://pandagon.net/2006/12/04/scam-artist-benny-hinn-to-flock-pay-for-my-ne
w-ministry-jet/

 <http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html>
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html

 <http://www.rickross.com/groups/bennyhinn.html>
http://www.rickross.com/groups/bennyhinn.html

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http://www.thestar.com/article/247207

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Now I am going to be fair to Paula White in this matter: it has long been a common teaching in Christianity that people have a body, soul, and spirit. Some further use that triadic division of our unity as a way of explaining the Holy Trinity doctrine and are made in the image of God, and they go quite a ways in speculating on the matter. I myself held and was promoting this doctrine until a few short months ago; I know that anyone who happens upon my old websites will definitely see my own frequent mentions of it, and I have almost certainly mentioned it on this one as well.

But this is a reason why, despite her assertions otherwise, that Paula White is not a better preacher than the apostle Paul as she claims in the video below. According to two evangelical Christian books on New Testament era Jewish - and Jewish Christian - thought on the doctrine of man, The New Testament: Its Background And Message (by Thomas Lea and David Black) and Jewish Backgrounds Of The New Testament (by Julius Scott) Jewish doctrine about the time of Paul - and remember that Paul was a trained Pharisee and onetime Sanhedrin member - man consists of two parts: the natural and the supernatural, the body and the spirit.

Well what of the soul? Traditional evangelical doctrine, as represented by Erickson’s modern classic Christian Theology, holds that the soul is the mind, will, and emotions, with the heart being the center of rational thinking. There is nothing supernatural or spiritual at all about your mind, will, and emotions. It is 100% natural, part of the body. As a matter of fact, it is what the apostle Paul calls “the flesh.” Mind, will, and emotions are not tangibly physical per se, but they are centered in and produced by the tangibly physical HUMAN BRAIN. Therefore, they are part of the body.

Proof of this: the sin of gluttony. A person is hungry, that is his tangibly physical body needs food to produce nutrients to sustain itself. Gluttony, though, is committed when the person eats far in excess of what his body demands. Maybe the person likes the taste of the food. Maybe the person is depressed or sad and is eating to to make himself happy or to cope. Maybe the person has been socialized or conditioned to eat until he can eat no more. In any event, the person’s eating is not driven by physical hunger, but his heart: his mental and emotional desire for food to meet his UNNATURAL soul hunger. Please note that for the glutton, while it is certainly possible to satisfy the physical hunger, it is impossible to satisfy the emotional and mental desire for food, and such a person will continue eating even after he ceases to gain pleasure or any other emotional or physical benefit from the act.

Now this is very important for the doctrine of salvation in my opinion. The Bible bears witness that even after the person is saved, he continues to sin in body (through acts) and soul (by desiring to sin, such as a man committing adultery by lusting after a woman not his wife). Now were the soul spirit, then how could one’s salvation be preserved? How could the saints persevere? Simple: the soul is not spirit. The soul is part of the body, so there is a separation between the sin in the body of the individual and the person’s saved redeemed spirit man. Now this may sound like the “P” portion of Calvinism’s “TULIP”, but the first person that I heard explain this doctrine of salvation was the free will (Arminian) charismatic preacher Andrew Wommack.

It is also an important part of Christology, the doctrine of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ incarnated is man - god, fully man and fully God! So, were man a trinity, then Jesus Christ incarnate would have been Trinity within Himself. That is a modalist (or oneness pentecostal) doctrine of God. While a oneness pentecostal would certainly say that this is an example of how Colossians 2:9 “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” is fulfilled in Jesus Christ according to their doctrines. That is disproven by the fact that incarnated Jesus Christ, being fully man, consists of a single body that is limited by the laws of physics - meaning that His physical body could only exist in one place at one time - just like any other natural man. This is why the doctrine that Jesus Christ was fully man and not kinda sorta man as the Docetists and some of the other Neoplatonist - inspired heretics of times past is so important: since incarnated Jesus Christ was 100% natural human, it was impossible for His body to be in heaven and on earth simultaneously. While Jesus Christ’s body that bore our sins was being broken for us on the cross, God the Father was turning His face away from that same body because He could not look upon the sin being borne by it, and was presumably weeping. So no, incarnated Jesus Christ is not Trinity or a Trinity. Incarnated Jesus Christ consists of a human body and a spirit man, just like us and all other humans (and yes, Christians who were trying to mix the Bible with Platonist and other pagan doctrines disputed that for centuries as well). The difference is that where our spirit men were created by God, the spirit man in the incarnated Jesus Christ is Logos of John 1:1, the Word Person of the Holy Trinity.

So while Paula White’s teaching in this area is exceedingly common and possibly even dominant - though I do not claim that it rises to the level of heresy that leads to apostasy, and those seeking to declare Paula White as apostate must do so on other grounds - it is still wrong. An example of this is how Benny Hinn takes this false doctrine to its logical conclusion: his “Trinity of Trinities” doctrine (also mentioned here) that IS a heretical proof of his apostasy (and but one at that). Simple: since each human person is a trinity in the image of God consisting of a body, soul, and spirit, then each Person of the Trinity also has three parts. (One wonders why Hinn stops the division there and does not keep dividing each person into infinity. I am almost certain that there is a pantheistic doctrine that offers a similar concept.)

Part of the confusion is that what is commonly referred to as “the soul” in Christianity is actually the spirit man, or the spirit of man (see Ecclesiastes 3:21). A similar mixing of terms is how “hell”, meaning Hades or sheol, is used in place of or interchangeably with “lake of fire.” I do agree that the Bible itself does not appear consistent on these two matters, but those might be translation issues. But the soul which is your thoughts, will, and emotions, while not physically part of the body, is part of the natural you that will die and return to dust. Your spirit man is the part that will exist forever either with God in glory or in the lake of fire in the second death! Jesus Christ determines where your eternal spirit of man will spend that eternity. If you have not done so already, please follow The Three Step Salvation Plan and give your spirit man to God today.

Joel Osteen and Asbury Seminary

 Joel Osteen On Romney and Mormonism Part 2

Osteen and Mormons Part 1

Back to Mormonism, since Copeland, Price, Meyer, Dollar, and many others - in addition to claiming to be “little gods” through their perversion Psalm 82:6 of out of context (I am grateful for Bob George of Realanswers.net answering my email regarding this question back when I was still a Word of Faither), all that is required is to claim that God the Father also was a man who became God and the concept of pre - existence, which was given to us by Origen (who fans of Joseph Smith the prophet with 33 wives, some of them already married to other men, lived long after the time that the church supposedly fell into complete apostasy and took the teachings on pre - existence with it).

Courtesy of The Heresy Hunter.

From Crackle: Kenneth Copeland Jesus Christ Had To Be Born Again

which says “God has a body that looks like yours, though His body is immortal, perfected, and has a glory beyond description“. Which is heresy, right? Well how do we know it is heresy? Because Jesus Christ said so in John 4:24: “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” The Mormons deny it in their Doctrines and Covenants: D&C 93: 33. For man is ^aspirit. The elements are ^beternal, and ^cspirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy D&C 130: 22. The ^aFather has a ^bbody of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of ^cSpirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not ^ddwell in us. (Now you see why presidential candidate Mitt Romney refuses to expound on his beliefs.)

So what does this have to do with oneness pentecostals? Well, read this from The Resurrection Body of Christ the Lord Part I by John C. Whitcomb, Th.D. That is right, BODY. When the Word, Jesus Christ, became flesh, HE TOOK ON A BODY. And according to Dr. Whitcomb, HE STILL HAS IT! Says Dr. Whitcomb: When He ascended to heaven, He did not leave His human nature behind, for “in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9). He will be God and man (two distinct natures) in one Person—forever!

So oneness people, what are your options? This does not harm the Trinitarians, for when Jesus Christ told the Samaritan woman that God is a spirit, He was speaking of the Holy Spirit and Father portions. You can, I suppose, claim that Jesus Christ was speaking of a mode of existence or a relationship. The problem is that it breaks down when Jesus Christ returned to His Father in Heaven to sit on the Father in Heaven’s right hand. When that happened, unless you have Three In One and Three Are One, then it means that the Incarnate Jesus Christ is the same false god as the Mormon god of flesh and bone. (Incidentally, please realize that Mormons themselves say no different: see here Theology: LDS god is in harmony with the Bible!)

You can say that the problem is solved because Jesus Christ returned to spirit form after ascending into Heaven. But there are problems with that.

1. The Bible does not say that He does. That one is dedicated to all the oneness people who say “the word Trinity is never used in the Bible.” I will go further, where Trinity is not mentioned but clearly depicted in the Bible, at no point does the Bible depict that Jesus Christ left His earthly body behind.

2. Paul seeing Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus. Now Paul did not see a vision. Nor did he see a theophany (what those who saw God in the Old Testament saw). No, Paul saw the resurrected Jesus Christ in bodily form.

3. All the references to Jesus Christ being seated on the right hand of the Father. You can say that it is anthropomorphic, such as the reference to God walking in the Garden of Eden (another one that the Mormons love to use to deny God being spirit). Problem: Stephen the martyr saw Jesus Christ in heaven standing before He was stoned to death!

4. Revelation, which speaks of the return of Jesus Christ. Well, when Jesus Christ returns, He will return PHYSICALLY. Acts 1:9-11 “And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven.” And then we go to Revelation 19:11-13 which says how this return will occur: “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.” Excuse me, but that does not describe the return of a spirit, a vision, or a theophany WHEN HEAVEN OPENS, but OF A BODY. How is this going to happen? Is Christ going to become incarnate again? Reincarnation? Well, you can believe that if you choose. But the Bible does not say so!

Please read the entire “Resurrection Body of Jesus Christ” series below.

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, and Part 10.

Equal time: the case has been made by a Trinitarian whose views I greatly respect that John 17:5 and Revelation 1:14-15 denies Jesus Christ having His resurrected body. I say that Zechariah 12:10 deals with Revelation 1:14-15 by virtue of being a prophecy of Jesus Christ’s return: “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”

Again, yet another reason why Trinity matters: it separates Christianity from the false religions.

Matthew 19:17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mark 10:18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luke 18:19: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

So from reading these scriptures, what conclusion should you come to? That Jesus Christ was not God, but only a messenger of God: a prophet, a special man, or perhaps an angel. Right? Realize that many who deny the deity of Jesus Christ use those scriptures and similar to claim just that! But instead, let us examine these scriptures more closely.

You might recognize this as the incident of the rich young ruler. Realize that at no time did Jesus Christ openly declare His divinity. He came the closest to the Samaritan woman (when He acknowledged being the Messiah, and neither the Jews nor the Samaritans were expecting the Messiah to be deity), when He said “before Abraham was, ‘I AM’”, and at His trial when He spoke of Himself as the Son of Man (which Judaism did not take to be a term referring to deity but rather an angel or prophet) who would sit next to the Father. Jesus Christ rather waited for others to declare His deity (as with Simon Peter, Thomas, and the woman taken in adultery). With Simon Peter, Jesus Christ asserted that knowledge and acceptance of His deity came not from man, but rather from the Holy Ghost. We can presume that to be the case in general.

Based on the behavior of the rich young ruler, who chose NOT to follow Jesus Christ but turned aside, we can presume that this fellow was not aware of Jesus Christ being deity, but rather considered Him to be a great prophet or teacher. Jesus Christ, of course, knew this. There are various examples in scripture of Jesus Christ being willing to suffer such people for a time and meet them where they were, but driving them off when He became weary of them, such as His telling the throng “you must eat my flesh and drink my blood to have eternal life”, and they replied that the teaching was too hard and all but a few left, and even those few He asked “Will ye go also?”

So when Jesus Christ told this man not to call Him good but that there was none good but God, he was speaking to a JEW that did not know HIM as God but only knew of the FATHER, the Father in Heaven whom Christ said that A) He came from, B) whose Will He was doing, C) was His own Father, D) that He would return to. The Father who spoke from Heaven when He was being baptized. The Father who forsook Him when He was on the cross bearing our sins. Deuteronomy 6:4 says “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” And Jesus Christ said no different. He said “I and the Father are One.” But He never said “I and the Father are THE SAME.”

Realize that according to Jewish law, worshiping any but the Father was blasphemy. When Christ forbad the rich young ruler from calling Him good, He was telling the young ruler to either recognize and worship Him as God or worship the Father only!

And here is one even more problematic. John 14:7-10 reads “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”

This is actually oft used in support of oneness, despite A) Jesus Christ saying that there was none good but the Father to the rich young ruler and B) Jesus Christ saying that He was IN the Father and the Father IN Him (which actually opposes manifestations, modes of existence, relationships, “God is like an egg with the Father being the yolk, the Son being the white, and the Spirit being the shell”, and all other oneness doctrines).

But that is not the point. The point is here: John 1:18 “No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.” So reconcile that with John 14:7-10 i.e. he that hath seen me hath seen the Father why don’t you? Claiming that John the beloved disciple rejected the deity of Jesus Christ is ridiculous. Claiming that Jesus Christ did not recognize His own deity or that He lied is also unacceptable, as is claiming that John 1:18 is wrong. The only explanation: the God that was referring to John 1:18 is Adonai, the Ancient of Days, God the Father. You can claim that John 1:18 refers to no one ever having seen the Father manifestation, relationship, mode of existence, egg yolk, etc. at any time, but at no point does the Bible say that. Just as (and again, to borrow from the oneness people themselves) the Bible never uses the term “Trinity.”

So as you see, Trinity either denies the deity of Jesus Christ or makes the New Testament plainly ridiculous. So Christians, it is not just some doctrine that can be accepted or discarded as a whim. Quite the contrary, the integrity of the Bible (for it is easy to see Trinity in the Old Testament as well once accepts it) and Christianity with it is at stake. As such, any Trinitarian Christian that chooses to support the oneness preachers, fellowship with oneness pentecostals, etc. then you are joining hands with those that are divided against scripture.

What did Jesus Christ say about divided houses? They shall not stand. Christians that play games with the Bible in this fashion are double minded. What does James 1:8 say about double - minded? “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” Pay special attention to the verse before it. “Let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.” Lest I be accused of playing games, James 1:2-8 is about the double - minded. You say that double - minded refers to those that lack faith? Well so do I. Oneness pentecostals deny that the Bible’s many references to Trinity are true, and use excuses that they themselves do not live by in other context (i.e. trinity not being mentioned in the Bible … neither is the term incarnation, the term that refers to the Word becoming flesh, by the way) and with their lack of faith that Deuteronomy 6:4 denies that God can exist eternally in three Persons without being three gods.

If you are a oneness pentecostal or other denier of Trinity and this presentation has not convinced you, well we shall have to agree to disagree. The purpose of this is Trinitarians that see nothing wrong with following, supporting, and fellowshipping and worshiping with those that deny this doctrine, claiming that it does not matter. I say that claiming that Jesus Christ denied His divinity in one place only to affirm it in another, or that John contradicted himself in his own gospel are very serious matters indeed that go to the heart of scripture and the foundation of our faith! It is more than about the pastor with great preaching skills, the speaking and tongues and shouting, or the outstanding choir and praise and worship, or seeing these famous preachers on TV (during which time many of whom do not speak of their opposition to the true nature of God) with their huge churches. Without sound doctrine, it is all in vain, like chaff consumed in a fire.

And no, this is not a “let the wheat and tare grow together” instance. Otherwise, that would contradict the warning to the church in Revelation 18:4: “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Since Jesus Christ cannot and does not disagree with scripture, Matthew 13:24-40 clearly says that the field that the tares are sowed into is THE WORLD, not the church. That would make oneness tares, part of the world that we are told to come out of in Revelation 18:4. And see what James 4:4 has to say about friendship with the world. Christianity is 100% serious, which means that Christians must stop playing games and start taking the scriptures seriously!

Please click on link below:

FaithAsAFruit.htm

The second video? Well the founder of this false theology, George Went Hensley turned out to be a fellow that was financially and sexually immoral. By the way, HE ALSO DIED OF A SNAKEBITE! (The name of his church? The Church of Jesus With Signs Following, sound familiar to any doctrines out there?) Yet his followers still adhere to his teachings.

The Kingdom of Evil & the Kingdom of God

BIBLE MEDITATION:  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet show I unto you a more excellent way.” 1 Corinthians 12:31

DEVOTIONAL THOUGHT:  Satan always gives the best first and the worst last. For example, Proverbs 20:17 says, “The bread of deceit is sweet, but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.”  With Satan, it always starts sweet, but it does not end that way. Satan is a counterfeiter and a deceiver, and he is guilty of false advertising. He doesn’t show the drunkard in the gutter covered with flies. He doesn’t show the addict shaking uncontrollably from another night of detox. He doesn’t show the ruined lives from sexually transmitted diseases. He always gives the best first and the worst last. Jesus gives the best last. ACTION POINT:  Do you have a teenager in your home? Then, call a homeless shelter or prison to see if  you can bring your teen for a tour.